The guy who documents mass killings ( powerkills website ) recently massively updated his figures on deaths due to Colonialism. I can understand he would have a lot of political correctness pressure to include this and I know the Spanish and Portuguese were pretty rough certainly millions died who wouldn't have normally. But His democide numbers don't include intertribal massacres. Surely sometimes Colonialism, caused some lives to be saved that wouldn't have been otherwise ? Pinker's Essay

- his font wrong, please include % of race in numbers. Also has he thought about including life days lost ? instead of just raw deaths

And what about non-European Colonialism, but it is conceivable that Aztecs and Incas were tough on the people they ruled. Populations were often decimated when colonizers arrived, but this was more often by new diseases, whereas killings by previous rulers were more often deliberate. Africans invented African slavery, Europeans ended it .
I already know from living in Africa that it was the African's of course that invented African slavery.

Originally broadcast on 14/5/98. In 1968 11-year-old Mary Bell from Newcastle upon Tyne was convicted of the manslaughter of two little boys. She was released from prison on licence in 1980. Journalist and author Gita Sereny spent many months interviewing Mary Bell, as well as relatives, professionals and friends, for her in-depth biography called Cries Unheard.

Seems again people are quick to condemn a criminal as evil, when it learned behavior from when they were victims

BBC Radio4 Questions Questions received a lot of complaint letters after they did an item taking Dowsing seriously. Shows UK has a lot of switched on skeptics.

From the Tank - Aussie Skeptics
- dulls say : For those who believe no proof necessary
- for skeptics no amount of proof is ever enough

kyliss replies
- 1 believe in absence of evidence
- 2 belief in spite of evidence against
- 3 belief cos of evidence
which one do you want ?

Bennelong is the name of Howard's constituency so Stephan presenter made a Led Zep video which takes the piss out of Howard to the tune of the song Been A Long Time .

BTW I saw that Rudd the Australian PM Labour candidate speaks excellent Chinese .. amazing.

One reason Rudd was elected was, cos he promised to take Oz into Kyoto, which shows how far Oz is from the rest of the world, cos everyone outside knows Kyoto was an utter shambles where countries make big promises which they never kept. Some countries had things like a 28% increase in CO2 whereas the US heavily criticised for staying outside did reduce it's by 1.5%.